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So basically we don't need over half of the things that we learn through school and formal education, but if we don't graduate high school we have a much lower chance if getting a job. *sigh* oh well. I liked the video where the guy was 'rapping' his thoughts about educative. It was very creative, just like what he was talking about. His accent was a bit hard to understand though...
After waching those video's it really brings up a lot of stuff that many people don't think about. I love the one on "What if love wasn't a subject" is what I think it was called. I love that if I look around me I know exactly what everyone would wake up and do all day that they aren't because of money and how the world is run. Thinking out of the box like one else does is something I do often and to know that someone else is too shows that someday maybe things will change...haha probably not but I hope it will so the future can live with happiness throughout their whole live doing what they want to do and love. Live.Laugh.Love.
I think one point that the articles and videos brought up was; That many people memorize before a test, instead of learning it. I think this is true with many people, even myself. Unless our school systems change, students are going to continue to forget what their test score said they knew.
Watching those video made me think that the education system does need change. The problem is; that the previous generation believe that if do as others tell them, and instruct their children like they were they everything will improve. Making everything standardized, just make up a factor produced batch from a school. I'm bad at English there are probably errors in this post, but if my English scores are bad does that make me worse than someone else.
Yes, I really do suck at English. The ONLY reason my grades are good is I run everything past my mom.
The articles and videos had many new and interesting points. One thing that I thought of though, was how most of the material was listing problems and complaints, etc. They didn't really mention much in the way of solutions, not that I can think of any, any better than they did, however.
These videos and articles brought up many great points about how education is today. One of the many points that where brought up that stuck out to me was from the video " I Will not let an exam determine my fate" was he said students just memorize things before a test and actually don't learn it is very true even in my case. I like this quote from " what if money was no object" " Better live a short life that is full of what you like doing, than a long life spent in a miserable way."
The problem with education today is that half of what you learn in school you will never need to use again. For instance the inverse tangent of 32 degrees or the ending of "The Tragedy of Julius Caesar". What you don't learn in school is what you will need later in life, like how to take care of yourself of balance a checkbook or check the air pressure in your car tires.
After watching the videos, and looking at what everyone else was saying, I think that the one main point that all of the videos focused on is the flaws in the school system. Did they offer any solutions, not really, did they comment on how the school system benefits many students nation wide, nope. I think that what Ken Robinson was saying was very true in the fact that most schools do push a lot of students out of what they might like to do, or how they express their creativity, but what if someone enjoys math, or biology, if we scrap the whole education system that we have, what will happen to those kids? So, I do agree with the videos, in the fact that yes, we do get pushed out of creativity as we grow older, and a lot of the things we learn in school may not necessarily be applied in everyday life, but I think that school is somewhat important in the aspect that it teaches us things that without school many people might not have the opportunity to learn and experience.
The videos and the article about Education pays seems to almost contradict each other since the videos go on about how our education system is screwed up when the article says that more education (through the current system) gives more and better paying jobs. So it seems to me that the current system works because if people go though the system set in place (alot of education in all subjects) it gives people a fall back job as a teacher. There is even a saying if you can't do you teach.
the article about more education equals less unemployment isn't totally true because there is not enough jobs for everyone
I thought that the videos were very interesting. Also that the educational system does need a change.
"If you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid." -- that's what came to my mind after watching these videos. Why should we learn stuff that we're never going to use again? It's just a waste of brain space.
Of all of what I saw, heard and read the guy that spoke while the white board narrated is sayings made the biggest impact. It made me realize that even though that " it's the normal thing to do" that it doesn't mean that it's the BEST thing. ADHD is loosely diagnosed and even if it's the actual cause that doesn't mean you drug them to what you believe are the right standards for their education. You ask, you listen and develope a solution. The writing by Zoe Weidell(or something like that) had a interesting picture/quote on it. "What if, instead of debate teams, we created solutionary teams in which groups of students worked together to come up with the most imaginative, yet practical and cost-effective solutions to complex challenges?" well, what if? Wouldn't that be a safe and effective way for people to release " energy". The guy that had the awesome accent made the point that while they sit listening to hamlet without a care, the second a math problem crops up they come alive.
i dont think we need half the things we learn in school. i think we should choose a career and take those classes needed for it. if we chose our careers early, say like in eighth grade. we could save money in college and once we graduate high school. i liked the guys accent,
I really liked these videos. They showed what's wrong and what we should change in our country's school systems.
I found that the youtube video "Animate - Changing Education Paradigms" is almost too true, that just want us to go thru school like we are in a stupor
I really liked all of the video's, especially the one about test scores. I have always had test anxiety, and tend to compare my score to the smartest people in my class. If I didn't do as well as them, I feel like every college I am interested in will look at that one bad grade on a geometry test and judge me on it. These video's really put future education into perspective for me.
I think that all the time, i hope that they look at the good grades and not the bad ones
I think all of the videos had a very good perspective on learning and growing up working. It also made me realize all the different sides and angles of education. Education should not boil down to one subject you are told to be good at, and if you are not you are considered "not smart". Education is about growing up and becoming the best at that one subject that you were born to do. This is the reason I like the video, "What If Money Was No Object", because in reality if money was no object, people would live their lives happier and do what they have always dreamed of doing. These videos show the importance of not just learning from a test, but learning truly as an individual and doing what you excel at. I enjoy them because i agree with each concept they lay out for us.
These videos are excellent tools that really make a person think. I sure know they made me! I really enjoy listening to the aspects of how education really isn't doing its job and may actually be discouraging kids. The points being brought up really are valid and apparent in society. From a young age I know I was raised to get through school with a degree that will help you make enough money to live on your own. I was also told that artists, musicians, and designers can barely make by with the money they make. Those jobs are something that I was always interested in, but often discouraged upon. These videos taught me that this is really not the case and that kids should be taught to follow whatever they are truly interested in, and that is something you would love to do for the rest of your life.
I liked these videos a lot and dthey really made me think about how our schooling is and how now, a lot of people with degrees dont get jobs. I have been interested in singing for a prefession but if you dont make it big time, you dont really get by, but if you are a doctor, you wont have any trouble.
I liked all these videos. They show what all of the schools in the United States are coming down to. The videos are very true about everything they talk about.
I think these videos made a lot of sense. All of the issues I think were very important. They showed that our school system could use many improvements.
The videos were clever. I liked the 2nd one that wrote on the white board. Really made me think that schools and life is almost all based off an exam score. “Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.” - Einstein
Cause the purpose of why I hate school, but love education was not initiate a worldwide debate, but to let them know that whether 72 or 88, 44 or 68, we will not let exam results decide our fate!
I love this one!!! You can't let people tell u what u are! Do what u love and follow your dream! #YOLO
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I think that all of the videos have very good points. I really like video when the guy drew the pictures, I think that it had very good points like when he talked about medicating for ADHD, and when he talked about the thinking capacity of peoples minds.
After watching all the videos and reading one of the articles, this question frequently pops into my head, what is the purpose of going to school? I think Ken Robinson answers the question in a unique way. He doesn't really give you an exact answer, he gives an explanation of an example. One of his examples stuck with me he said, " As we get older we're suppose to gradually progress at the things we are taught, aren't we? From little on we all had the ability to be creative. As we grow and become more educated, we lose what we had. We don't grow into creativity, we grow out of it." I enjoyed watching these videos, they opened my eyes to new ideas and views on school.
I thought that these videos were very good and I think that they have a lot to do with what's happening in schools all over America and showing us that teachers in schools maybe do need some changes and that so does our education system
I thought that the article was very interesting and that we all as students should finish high school. High school is free, but will pay in in the long run. I also think schools should improve there leaning techniques.
I liked the videos they were cool. Videos like these remind me of a person on YouTube called vsauce. You should check him out mr j.
I checked out Vsauce. I didn't even know this guy existed. Lots of cool stuff. I like the "Is the 5 second Rule true?"
I thought that the article and the videos was very good. Like the people don't learn the same. Just greeting a degree doesn't mean you get a job, and parents still want you do better than they do. Even if you don't get the job you want. A lot of students don't even think that they will ever us what they learn in school.
I think that what they say in these videos make a lot of sense!!! Like how we (the students) are bored. I think that schools have a lot to change and these videos really explained that well.
These videos are very inspiring. Not only do they make sense of what is going on in this world, but they tell you how to help!
They inspire others to help people believe in what they want, and understand only the things that need understanding.
I think that the videos made a lot of scenes and were very true. The were inspiring and I did sorta enjoy watching them they weren't as bad as expected. But while we may not like going to school it doesn't look very good to say dropout on a resimay. And I don't think if you want to be a doctor you'd be able to get a jod with only a high school education
In a way these articles and videos are inspirational, but than again when our eyes are opened up to something new its nearly always inspirational. So in my opinion yes school is quite good but it has its downsides explained in a few of the links. One main one is creativity which goes down a lot if you don't get a chance to express yourself. People do not notice it much till its pointed out. Trying to regain your creativity is quite a hard thing to do and some would say its nearly impossible. Still, nothing's impossible. We do need school I just suppose after so many years we should choose what classes we wish to take. If we never want to do anything using geometry or high leveled history what's the reason for taking it. School is hard but it's worth it. Also the one video you showed in class with little doodles where he's saying " if you don't think you're beautiful buy a better mirror look a little closer, stare a little longer" that's not the whole video for it as its a guy on stage for 20 minutes or so. Either way all of your resources are really into it and apparently (as you can tell) very inspiring to many civilians.
I thought that "What if money was no object?" video was the best out of all of these. It made the most sense to me.
From these videos you can tell that education is really important, but I think we should have more choices in what we learn, not just for our future but I think there would be a lot less dropouts. And in reality I would rather do something I love and have a short life, than do something I hate and live longer in a miserable life. Overall we should a few more choices, cause after all its our Own future.
Watching these videos makes me realize that school isn't the most important thing and that we really do need to change our school systems. Our students need to be able to learn what means most to them, and have a more personal learning experience instead of a "one program fits all" sort of deal. I think it would help out a lot of students and it would help students enjoy school a lot school more if we could start choosing what classes we wanted at a younger age instead of just assuming that we all need the same kinds of things.
The videos made me think of things differently. I had never thought if my education this way. I wish we had different choices for where our education takes us in life. Education is very important even if a lot of people don't enjoy it.
Well... After watching all of those videos and reading the articles, all I can think is: are schools teaching us wrong? It does make a lot of sense that the education system was created for a different generation and should be changed. And also, it's sad that money really is problem. A lot of the things that make us happy cost more money than they make, which just discourages us from doing what we love.
These videos make a lot of sense. Especially that one about exam results. A lot of government officials and even adults in our life judge a lot of people based on the outside information they already know, but it's the same government who endorses war and is against abortion, but at the same time frowns upon teen parents. It really makes you think about the things you are being taught too, because everybody has a different future, and won't need the same things as the person next to them.
The videos that we watched gave me a lot of views on school. I also had many same views. I always thought to myself and asked myself why we are learning things that we don't need for our future. Some of the math that we are learning I don't understand when I will EVER use it in my entire life after high school, or college. I think that high school should prepare us for what job we want to do for our future.
These videos made a lot of good points about our school systems, there seems to be a lot of things you learn in school that you will never use out of high school. Everyone learns differently and our government should take that into consideration,
I completely agree with the second link. About how ADHD isn't an epidemic. It's not all a disorder it's just people have a hard time paying attention to something they have no interest in learning. They don't see how it'll benefit them and they question why they need to learn it. All students ask that question all the time. I know I do. Teachers spend too much time trying to teach children how to do things they way they think is right and less time letting them express their thoughts and ideas. Teachers need to let the creativity thrive otherwise this is going to be one boring world we live in in no time because of the lack of imagination.
These videos reaffirmed my views on education. I thought they made great points, like not letting an exam grade decide your fate. Education should be more focused on the individual.
The videos and articles that we were assigned to watch as indivuals were on topics that i discuss with my "parental advisors" on a weekly basis. My father P, has strong personal views on the topic of education. Many i agree with, and many i disagree with. In the youtube animation video with speaker ken robinson, he (Ken Robinson) analyzes his observations of the "outdated" education system in an unbiast, straight forward, and factual display of the problem now, and why we need to fix it. Most of his thoughts pertaining to the topic of education also provided me information in which i thought i already knew. Well i didn't. These videos gave me a new understanding of how education should be changed and why. I believe that as a whole, the kids that should be getting more education arent, and the kids who need help arent recieving one on one time that they should in order to successfully learn the tools that are necessary in all lifes processes..
The videos were very interesting. It made me think that schools, as we get older, should try to figure out what students as individuals are best at and interested in. Then give them the chance to excel at these things rather than make them get frustrated because they can't learn a certain subject that won't even affect their future.
I think the videos brought up a lot of good points. They made me think about how not everyone is the same or learns the same way. For some people its harder to learn and do well in school and I think that schools need to figure out a way to help those students learn. I also think that we spend a lot of time in school learning things we will never need in the real world and that we shouldn't waste our time learning about those particular things.
I agree with most of Ken Robinson's ideas, creativity and creative subjects seem to be viewed as less important than Math or English. “If you’re not prepared to be wrong, you’ll never come up with anything original.” That is one of the quotes that left an impression on me.
These videos show alot of differnet views on education, pointing out how some stuff that may be on a exam or test will not be used in our daily llives after.Many people learn in different ways and the school system should relieze that.
I think that these resources were all helpful, but the story about not letting an exam result decide my fate really caught my attetntion. We think that to be a successful person you have to have all A's and graduate, but that's not necessarily true.
Honestly, I didn't like the videos. The people that made them only focus on what schools don't teach us and everything they do wrong. Although everyone learns differently and it may seem as if schools don't accomodate those like that... but, that is only because some people don't use the tools and resources that are available to them, that would make school easier for their specific style of learning. I did like the video that talked about if money was no object, although we still have to be realistic and they didn't really convey that point. And schools don't put as much emphasis on fine arts because most people don't pursue careers that require knowing how to properly shade drawings or how to perform a pirouette. But, this doesn't mean the school system doesn't allow us to learn these things. They don't limit our potential or hold us back in any way, the people who are saying otherwise are using it as an excuse and fail to see how much we are really being benefitted.
These videos are sort of inspiring actually. I feel like school can only tell you whether you're good or not in, what, 4 subjects? I feel like schools push on math, and then English, social studies, and science are put under mathematics. You could be the most mathematical educated person in the world, and yet, it doesn't mean anything. I think there would be more "genius" people in the world if we didn't base everyone on a strict set of subjects.
A lot of these replies reference how you get judged in education, or how, if you aren't good at core classes, you're considered "not smart". I agree. You can be brilliant and severely underestimated in school, but I think that fault is in people, not education. All of these sources had opinions about WHAT needs to be fixed in education, but none of them said HOW. I think that education does the best that it can. Public education does exactly what it claims to - it educates the whole public, not the individual. Everyone likes hating on standardized tests and mainstream methods, but what do you expect to be done? There simply isn’t time for administrators to find out what every kid can do. Think about kids in our grade; it took TEN YEARS for you to realize that the one kid in your class who always gets judged is actually really smart. We can get upset about the problems in education all we want, but being poetic and temporarily inspired isn’t going to fix it. Education is how it is because no one takes it seriously. I think there’s no harm in giving us more choices and paying more attention to what your students want, but being an individual means you be yourself and be creative no matter what box you’re put in. That includes school.
I agree with some of the videos' sentiments about education, like the disdain for standardized testing, and teaching to the curve. I do not agree, however, that everything would be better if we stopped emphasizing the current core education departments. They all work together to prepare students for work in the STEM fields, and all future scientific and philosophical progress depends on these fields. There is most definitely a place for the arts and other, non-traditional learning fields, but it's not at the forefront of the curriculum. Students simply need to learn reasoning to get anywhere in life, and that's what the current education system works at.
I think it was interesting how we lose so much creativity as we grow older. Everything that we do and that we are taught seems extremely mainstream. When do we ever go off the beaten path and try something new? I know I rarely ever do when it comes to school work because I know that if I do it a certain way and meet all the requirements then I will get a good grade. What do we learn from that? That if you just make it up to par then you can pass a class or quiz? That isn't going to help us when we don't have a set criteria that we have to meet. Then it will be the real challenge to see how we all react to thinking creatively to get the work done.
I definitely agree with what was said in these videos. Though I cannot say much that hasn't already been said, I will say this: it's time to change our standard-oriented education system. Educators can't expect all students fit into the same demographic, in terms of rate of learning, abstract thinking vs concrete thinking, interests, etc. It's time to make education more individual and diverse.
I kind of agree with what was said in these videos. But what I didn't like about the videos was that they only focused on what the schools do wrong. I did like that they said don't let an exam decide your future.
I think that the videos were very intersting. Also that they need to change our educational system. Nic B. IS MY BEST FRIEND!!
i thought these videos were really good. i agree with most of the things that were said. they had a lot of interesting facts and opinions about school and education. my favorite video is I Will Not Let An Exam Result Decide My Fate, I can relate to that video the most.
these videos didnt really interest me at all.. not what i like much... so yah it is true school sucks. they are always gettin in ur face bout something. the one who is innocent always gets in trouble.
the videos in my mind were interesting and if every watched these and understanded these videos mabey the world would be a more happier place
they were interesting and relavent but hard to follow sometimes.
Jeg er enig med disse video for det meste. Som du så, Mister J, fra min andre papir på utdanning, kan jeg skrive ganske mye. Ikke til positiv må jeg si, heller. Så disse tingene kan bare sies igjen og igjen, men fortsatt deres mening er den samme. Som David nevnte, jeg også se Vsauce ganske regelmessig, og jeg er enig i at disse videoene minnet meg om ham. Jeg elsker deg, Mister Jaskowiak.
Google translate might screw up some grammar, but you should get the general idea :)
These videos make a lot of sense and i completely agree with them. schools are limiting our thinking ranges. Some teachers do allow a wide range and like to make you think for yourself but others have their ways of teaching and only use that way. Most student dont exactly follow how some teachers teach. but if they used different tactics they would get more students attention.
Okay, I really liked those videos. I agree with Ken Robinson about education. He is a funny guy, he really knows how to talk to people. I hate school because we have to get up so early and there is a bunch of stuff I know I will NEVER use in my life! I'm sorry but I really don't like English, I really struggle in it. I also don't really like the book. :/ sorry. I'm also gone quite a bit and that makes it difficult. But I do try to improve.
To me, the arts and creativity have always been important to me, because they allow you to express how you feel and what's most important to you through various means, be it through drawings or paintings, or music or some other medium. Schools put too much emphasis on cold hard facts rather than letting students use their imagination.
The videos were pretty interseting. I agree more with Ken Robinson. Schools education does ruin a kids creativity!
Yea I know this was due a long time ago, but I watched the video about what most schools don't teach and I thought that it was a very truthful video because there are a lot of schools out there that don't teach much when it comes to technology. Our school happens to be one of the lucky ones to teach computer coding and other classes related to computers and other technology. I really don't know where I'd be today without technology or the knowledge to use it.
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